[MF] Is the pinnacle of human experience...
Kevin Perez
juan825diego at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 21 04:52:15 PST 2006
Ted,
Thanks for the feedback. Again, I'll try to communicate more clearly.
You wrote,
Kevin, you posted this story in response to a question about what you
think might be missing from Pirsig's writing. It's a nice story, but I'm
pretty sure I'm not receiving the point you're trying to make with it.
Without any other analysis form you, I don't know how you apply it to
the question(s) at hand. Do you feel this story demonstrates some
heart that Pirsig's stories lack? Can you be specific? Is it compassion,
brotherly love that you feel Pirsig lacks?
What the account of Henri Nouwen's and Bill Van Buren's experiences means
depends on one's point of view I suppose. I'm beginning to see that this is what
Pirsig must have meant by "man is the measure of all things." We see what we
have the capacity to see. And we value what we have the ability to evaluate or
measure. But I think there's more to it. I think that our capacity to see and our
ability to evaluate are themselves dependent on our relationships. So although
man may be the measure of all things, man and what man measures are nothing
apart from man's relationships with people, things and events. The relationships
come first. The measuring and the evaluating always come second.
What I find missing in Pirsig's writing and what I find present in Nouwen's story
is an explanation of the power of relationships to influence outcomes. And not just outcomes, but perceptions too.
...while I was still thinking about Bill's trip with me primarily as something
that would be nice for him, Bill was, from the beginning, convinced that he
was going to help me. I later came to realize that he knew better than I.
It was through their relathionship and their shared experiences that Henri came
to see what Bill saw from the start. But there was something more. There was
something about the quality of their relationship that made their specific shared
experiences possible.
Ted, I'd like to continue our discussion but with a shift to Lila. What do you
think?
Thanks again Ted.
Take care.
Kevin
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